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e.r. dodds, the greeks and the irrational, (p. 100, (108),

"several indo-european languages have a  common term for "poet" and "seer" (latin vates, irish fili etc.)"[1] :)

 

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() בּוּ פּדּ בּוּ שּׁלּ וּ יִשׂ נּ שׁגּ שׁ וּ וֹ בּ שׂ.

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 () וּ יּ וֹ שׁוֹ דּוּ בּ שׁגּ זּ יּ אַתּ תּ שׁ שׂוֹ.

 

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imagination

  

the lunatic, the lover, and the poet,

are of imagination all compact;

one sees more devils than vast hell can hold,

that is, the madman; the lover, all as frantic,

sees helen's beauty in a brow of egypt:

the poet's eye, in a fine frenzy rolling,

doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven;

 and, as imagination bodies forth

the forms of things unknown, the poet's pen

turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing

a local habitation and a name.

 

william shakespeare (from a midsummer night's dream)

 

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believing that all events were meaningful,. significant dreams were remembered and interpreted to gain larger meaning of the person or even the community within the

 magical world.

 

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[1] http://plaza.ufl.edu/luxjw/naso.html

the vates,  or the 'seers', were ... visionaries, and  bards,  who viewed the world as a magical place. believing that all events were meaningful,. significant dreams were remembered and interpreted to gain larger meaning of the person or even the community within the magical world. they believed that all things in nature, seen and

unseen could also be learned from.

 

this 'reading' of the signs was the job of the vates. their divination came in many forms, from watching the animals and nature, to casting stones or specially carved sticks...etc.

 being a vates is a spiritual experience of direct communication and inspiration by the divine. it presupposes  an ancient understanding of  the divine - that which moves/urges you.  thus, when a vates emits verse, he is being moved by some type of divinity - enthusiasm. the vates seems to have little choice in the matter.

 

a vates is the mediator between the divine and the audience. the vates has no responsibility over what he emits (ironic how the god of reason/control is also the god of poetry .the muse is the keymaster for the vates. without her, the vates is not able to produce poetry, i.e. - interpret/understand what the divine is dictating to him. the muse is the lifelong companion of the vates reminding him to cherish every moment and see the mirablia in all life. if the muse dies or leaves, the poet dries up, never to be heard

from again.

 

 

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